Curse

fatboyslimerr · May 25, 2006, 06:37 PM // 18:37

Right thats it, iway have pissed me off for too long. Even though the last 4 or 5 iway teams have bin crap, its too easy and too common and it gets you free fame basically. I wanna make a build (with people's help) that can drop iway (or just a warrior) in seconds !!!
Some skills that will be vital

* Empathy (iway has no hex removal)
* Clumisness
* Ineptitude (some might argue this isn't that great but against warriors its a huge spike that goes straight through armor)
* Images or Remorse
* Conjure Phantasm

Just with those, they take 30(empathy) + 40(IoR) every time they attack + close to 200 damage from ineptitude+clumisness while having -8 degen. This should drop a warrior pretty damned fast. Anyone got a warrior destroyer build better than this ???

Then possibly add some other skills just incase you don't come up against iway

Francis Demeules · May 25, 2006, 06:39 PM // 18:39

hum...... Can I add Epidemic for adj warriors with it?

Oh and Shadow of Fear and Faintheartdness

Eaimirth Etaivella · May 25, 2006, 06:57 PM // 18:57

Back when iway was super popular; a few counters sprung up across the board.
of those these were the most popular
Panic+2x sig of weariness
Ward against melee
Blinding Flash
Shadow of Fear

fatboyslimerr · May 25, 2006, 07:46 PM // 19:46

They are more anti warrior skills, I'm on about destroying warriors before they gain enough adrenaline for eviscerate or whatever. I'm on about death in less than 10 seconds and degen to counter the bloody iway skill. The ones you recommended don't do any kinda damage. Also I don't need to slow down their melee attacks because they should be blinded from ineptitude plus the faster they attack the faster they kill themselves from empathy + IoR.

Owned in 5 skills ???

Jetdoc · May 25, 2006, 08:39 PM // 20:39

Try Empathy + Spiteful Spirit. Not only does it penalize them for attacking through them, but SS's AoE damage really destroys the warriors, which tend to bunch up as they call targets. Both of these skills are also for multiple attacks instead of just penalizing a single attack.

If you Echo or Arcane Echo either of them, you'll even be able to spread around the love.

I'm not a big fan of Shadow of Fear or Faintheartedness on an IWAY warrior because you WANT them to attack faster so they can kill themselves with their attacks (via Empathy and SS).

Eaimirth Etaivella · May 25, 2006, 09:02 PM // 21:02

Panic+2xsig does not grant them energy energy to "cast" iway
Ward causes 50% miss chance->50% less adren
Blinding flash->90% less adren
Shadow of Fear->50% less adren

Eaimirth Etaivella · May 25, 2006, 09:03 PM // 21:03

Panic+2xsig does not grant them energy energy to "cast" iway
Ward causes 50% miss chance->50% less adren
Blinding flash->90% less adren
Shadow of Fear->50% less adren

Francis Demeules · May 25, 2006, 09:56 PM // 21:56

Like I said before, Shadow of Fear+Faint= about 6 seconds between each swings until they remove it or finish it. Good way to slow them under Iway. Another good Elite while they're in group: Shared Burden

fatboyslimerr · May 25, 2006, 10:10 PM // 22:10

Empathy + SS + Reckless Haste ???
This could work a treat but you'd need to throw some echo in there. I'm gonna test it later

o chief · May 25, 2006, 11:05 PM // 23:05

sympathetic visage sounds ideal for it.

Eaimirth Etaivella · May 26, 2006, 03:08 AM // 03:08

I perfer nonconditional counters that do not rely on the stupidity of my opponents...

Skuld · May 26, 2006, 06:38 PM // 18:38

reckless haste - no point as they have IWAY and TF

the 6 seconds between swings is an overexageration

Francis Demeules · May 26, 2006, 06:53 PM // 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuld

the 6 seconds between swings is an overexageration

Hammer Warriors

Hella Good · May 26, 2006, 10:33 PM // 22:33

Panic + 2 Sigs of Weariness + Enfeebling Blood + Well of Weariness + few other random e-drain skills (Burn, Tap, Feedback, Shacks, w.e.) = weakened Warriors who get punished for using Heal Sig and don't have the nrg to use IWAY, so they can't heal themselves for jack and they don't any damage. GG. Yes, I've tried it vs IWAY.

fatboyslimerr · May 28, 2006, 08:39 AM // 08:39

Thats interesting, but lets say I already had a fairly nice build, e-denial or whatever but mainly domination,inspire and FC, and I had one skill slot with which to use on warriors. I don't mind what anyone says, can be secondary skill, but is it possible to deal with warriors with one skill (semi effectively) ?? I've seen a few people using the spirit and price of failure combo, others using the old SS but anyone got any other ideas to rape or disrupt or annoy or spike etc etc a warrior with one skill.

Francis Demeules · May 28, 2006, 01:52 PM // 13:52

Well of suffering to fight against the regen of IWAY and that well which remove -1 or -2 energy regen

Eaimirth Etaivella · May 28, 2006, 02:31 PM // 14:31

One skill

istortion~
-edit-
I officially hate smiles.
Distortion

Hella Good · May 28, 2006, 05:38 PM // 17:38

What elite you using? SV/AV might be an option, either take the mirrors, or Echo/GoRenewal one of them (you can use the doubling elite for anything else, so it won't rly hurt your build).

RYCHER969 · May 30, 2006, 12:35 AM // 00:35

inept+ clumsi+ conj phant + phant pain+ shatter delusion= 1 dead warr in about 10-15 secs. slap em with ignorance to shut off heal sig or just sit back with leech sig and a smile when they TRY to heal...hahahahahahahaha

Dragannia · May 30, 2006, 12:40 AM // 00:40

Warriors, generally, are too hard to kill quickly. DOT damage, or shutdown, is the best way to defeat them. Shadow of Fear absolutely destroys IWAY. As does Soothing Images. Basically, just shut down their ability to do massive damage, and beat them through sheer attrition.